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Q3 2024 Algoma Steel Group Inc Earnings Call

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Participants

Mike Moraca; IR; Algoma Steel Group Inc.

Michael Garcia; CEO; Algoma Steel Group Inc.

Rajat Marwah; CFO; Algoma Steel Group Inc.

David Ocampo; Analyst; Cormark Securities Inc.

Katja Jancic; Analyst; BMO Capital Markets Corp.

Ian Gillies; Analyst; Stifel Nicolaus Canada Inc.

Ahmad Shaath; Analyst; Beacon Securities Limited

Lucas Pipes; Analyst; B. Riley Securities, Inc.

Presentation

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Algoma Steel Group Inc. fiscal third quarter 2024 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this conference is being recorded.
I’ll now turn the conference over to your host, Mike Moraca, Treasurer and Investor Relations Officer. You may begin.

Mike Moraca

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Algoma Steel Group, Inc. Third Quarter Fiscal 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Leading today’s call are Michael Garcia, our Chief Executive Officer; and Rajat Marwah, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay later today in the Investors section of Algoma Steel’s corporate website at www.algoma.com.
I would like to remind you that comments made on today’s call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws, which involve assumptions and inherent risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from statements made today. In addition, our financial statements are prepared in accordance with IFRS, which differs from US GAAP, and our discussion today includes references to certain non-IFRS financial measures.
Last evening, we posted an earnings presentation to accompany today’s prepared remarks. The slides for today’s call can be found in the Investors section of our corporate website. With that in mind, I would ask everyone on today’s call to read the legal disclaimers on Slide 2 of the accompanying earnings presentation and to also refer to the risks and assumptions outlined in Algoma Steel’s Third Quarter Fiscal 2024 Management’s Discussion and Analysis.
Please note that our financial statements are prepared using the US dollar as our functional currency and the Canadian dollar as our presentation currency. Our fiscal year runs from April 1 to March 31, and our financial statements have been prepared for the 9 and 6 months ended September 30, 2023. Please note, all amounts referred to on today’s call are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Following our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.
I will now turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Michael Garcia. Mike?

Michael Garcia

Thank you, Mike. Good morning and thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal third quarter results. As is customary, I’ll start by highlighting our top priority, the safety of our employees at Algoma. We uphold an unwavering commitment to safety, which has resulted in a notable improvement to lost time injury performance year to date. While our site remains bustling with activity, it’s crucial to underscore the significance of safety, particularly as our EAF project progresses with increase in contractor involvement, we remain steadfast in our pursuit of 0 workplace injuries.
Next, I’ll cover key events and milestones during our fiscal third quarter and subsequent to events, as well as giving an update on progress at our transformative EAF project. I will then turn the call over to Rajat for a deeper dive into the numbers and a discussion of our strong liquidity and balance sheet.
Before closing, with an update on market conditions, there are a few important things I would like to get across on this call. Our long-term strategy remains unchanged and on track to successfully execute the transition to being one of North America’s greenest producers of steel.
Our results for the quarter were comfortably in line with our expectations. Our facilities are back online with a goal of reaching full production as quickly and safely as possible following the coke making utilities structure collapse.
And finally, the outlook for our end markets calls for an improvement in pricing relative to calendar year 2023.
Now let me give you some additional color on those key themes. Our results for the fiscal third quarter of 2024 were in line with our previously disclosed guidance on both shipments and adjusted EBITDA. And we achieved year-over-year improvements in nearly all of our key metrics as a reminder, our fiscal third quarter included major seasonal maintenance, which was completed as planned ahead of the winter months due to the lagging nature of our order book, realized pricing in the quarter did not yet reflect the run-up in markets around the end of the UAW strike.
That stronger pricing is expected to begin benefiting our financial results in the fiscal fourth quarter, which unfortunately will be largely offset by impacts related to the outage caused by the incident at our coke making plant that I will discuss in more detail shortly.
Our fiscal third quarter is typically a busy one in terms of seasonal maintenance, and this year was no exception. In totality to work was completed as planned. We also built seasonal inventories per our normal practice going into the end of the calendar year.
During the quarter, we made additional progress on Phase two of our plate mill modernization project, including bringing the in-line share online and ramping up its production through the end of the year. We expect higher production levels of play going forward, which will allow us to capture market opportunities and to build inventory ahead of the planned outages for the implementation of the final pieces of the modernization project.
As a reminder, we have split the originally planned 40 day outage into two shorter duration outages with the first outage scheduled in April and the second outage planned for late calendar year 2024 to align with other planned maintenance activities, providing some efficiencies on downtime.
Next, I’d like to update you on the progress during the quarter on our transformational electric or EAF project for EAF will ultimately increase our throughput capacity by roughly a third from $2.8 million tons per year of liquid steel making capacity by conventional means today for $3.7 million tons employing dual furnaces upon completion, higher output will match our expanded downstream finishing capacity as we increase capacity at our plate mill.
We will improve overall product mix and lower our carbon emissions by approximately 70% when fully operational when factoring in the makeup of our power supply.
When we switch to EAF operations, we expect to be one of the greenest producers of steel in North America. During the quarter, cumulative investment in the EAF project reached $510 million. To date we have committed contracts totaling approximately $750 million, with approximately 7% tied to time and material contracts. While the balance is fixed price in nature, we expect to contract the majority of the remaining project elements by the end of the current quarter.
This will significantly derisk the EAF project budget as we progress towards our expected commissioning in late calendar year 2024.
As a reminder, our start-up plan continues to include normal production forward from our existing steelmaking facility while ramping up steel production from our EAFs in calendar year 2025, followed by a complete switch to EAF production.
Before I hand it over to Rajat, let me give you an update on our operations currently.
As we previously disclosed on January 20 and January 23, there was an incident at our coke making plant that involved the collapse of a structure supporting utilities plankton. Thankfully, there were no injuries, but the event did impact several utilities that service the coke batteries and other facilities throughout the steelworks coke making operations were suspended at the time of the incident, and we were able to stabilize heat to all free batteries and resume partial coke production within 72 hours of the incident.
When factoring in coke inventories on hand, the availability of third party coke and our partial production capabilities, we are able to satisfy all of our steel-making raw material input needs while at the same time, pursuing a permanent repair plan for the plant. As we also disclosed previously, at the time of the incident, we temporarily suspended blast furnace operations for safety reasons the blast furnace experienced operational challenges upon initial restart due to unforeseen impacts related to the piping collapse.
All necessary repairs to the blast furnace have been completed and the furnaces gradually being brought back online, usable hot metal is expected to be produced within the next seven days with the return to full production anticipated within the next two weeks.
Most importantly, we will undertake these recovery efforts with the safety of our employees and our community at the forefront. While doing this, we continue to advance the project on schedule. I’d like to once again, thank all of our employees for their hard work, dedication and professionalism.
Now I will pass the call over to Rajat to go over our financial results for the quarter. Rajat?

Rajat Marwah

Thanks, Mike. Good morning and thank you all for joining the call. As a reminder, all numbers are expressed in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted, we shipped 516,000 tons in the quarter, up 12.6% as compared to the prior year period. Our plate and strip operations ran well in the quarter, even as we completed a normal seasonal maintenance, including our annual steelmaking vessel relines net sales realization averaged $1,059 per ton, down 3.3% versus the prior year period.
The decrease versus the prior year level primarily reflects somewhat softer market conditions in the quarter, in particular, the residual lower prices resulting from the UAW strike and due to the lag nature of our order book plate pricing continued to enjoy a significant premium relative to hot-rolled coil during the quarter, driven by resilient demand, particularly from spending on infrastructure projects and durables in revenue.
In the quarter totaled $556.9 million, up 8.8% versus the same quarter of last year, reflecting the increase in shipments that more than offset lower average realizations per ton of steel on the cost side, although most cost per ton of steel products sold averaged $1,027 in the quarter, down 11.2% versus the prior year period.
The decrease versus the prior year period is primarily attributable to favorable leverage on higher volumes. This resulted in adjusted EBITDA in the quarter of negative $1 million and adjusted EBITDA margin of negative 0.2%, an improvement from negative $35.9 million and negative 6.3% in the year ago period. Cash used in operations totaled $47.4 million for the quarter compared to a use of one $28.6 million in the prior year period. Our inventories at the quarter end were $886.6 million, up 7.8% during the quarter.
Due to normal seasonal build patterns ahead of winter. We would typically expect to release inventories in the first half of calendar 2024, heavily weighted towards the first calendar quarter. But the impact of the coke making plant incident will result in higher levels of inventory for inputs like ore and coal, delaying some of that anticipated inventory build.
Looking prospectively, we do expect the fourth fiscal quarter to experienced directionally higher EBITDA versus the third fiscal quarter fund performance will obviously be impacted by the production outage related to the utility structure collapse. All told, we expect the incident to impact production and shipments for more than three weeks totaling roughly 120,000 tons, 250,000 tons.
It should be noted that Algoma carries standard insurance coverage that is intended to protect the company at times like this, including business interruption insurance, we have begun the process of submitting claims under our policy for covered losses and insurance adjusters and advisers were on-site And so similarly, we are working closely with them to secure our protection. We expect to have more details on this front in coming months.
From a working capital perspective, we had mentioned on our previous call that we expect to release a total of $150 million by the end of fiscal 2025 with approximately $100 million of working capital drawdown in the fourth fiscal quarter of 2024.
On account of the coke making utility structure collapse and the related operational outages, we expect to release 70% less than originally expected amount in the fourth fiscal quarter. This timing issue will result in us releasing the balance over the subsequent quarters, and we still expect to release approximately $150 million over this period.
I would like to provide a reiteration of our funding plans for the year projects. As previously noted, our outlook for total cost of the project remains in the range of $825 million to $875 million. Towards the end of the quarter, we had spent $510 million or 60% of expected total, leaving $340 million of investment demand.
We are well positioned today and we look at our expected sources for those expenditures over the course of 2024, we have structured our balance sheet such that the only long-term debt we carry is in the form of government loans linked to our capital projects, allowing us to maintain a very low leverage profile with ample liquidity of nearly $400 million at quarter end to manage through market fluctuation and complete our capital initiatives.
We have cash on hand of nearly $95 million and of the $76 million of available capacity on our federal loan and approximately $150 million of cash to be generated from working down excess working capital in the months ahead. Combined, this roughly matches the expected capital requirements to complete the project, highlighting our ability to advance this transformative project as planned.
I’d now like to turn the call back to our CEO, Michael Garcia, for closing comments. Mike?

Michael Garcia

Thank you, Rajat. Looking at the state of the North American steel market. Hot-rolled coil index prices moved dramatically higher in October as the settlement and the UAW strike became apparent and steel consumers rush to replenish their inventory needs over the calendar fourth quarter, pricing moved from the mid-$600 range to touch nearly $1,100 per net ton by the end of the year.
Pricing so far in 2024 has come in with index prices dropping by approximately $50 and futures falling into the mid $800 per ton US average for the balance of 2024, while off from year-end highs, these prices still represent a meaningful improvement from levels seen during much of 2023.
As Rajat mentioned, we are also supported by the fact that plate pricing continues to demonstrate a significant premium as overall demand for plate products remains high and this in turn continues to benefit our average price realizations, especially as we ramp up operations in our plate mill 2024 will be an important year in the story of Algoma as we continue to execute work towards the commissioning of our transformative EAF project.
This will usher in the next phase of our Company that defines the future of Algoma provides the foundation for long-term value creation for our stakeholders and solidifies our leadership position at the forefront of green steel production in North America.
Thank you very much for your continued interest in Algoma Steel. At this point, we would be happy to take your questions. Operator, please give the instructions for the Q&A session.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. (Operator Instructions)
David Ocampo, Cormark Securities.

David Ocampo

Thanks for taking my questions. My first one is just on a bigger picture question. I guess when you look to 2025, you guys have always discussed being a hybrid operator and either tilting towards being a pure-play EAF or throwing in a little bit of your blast furnace there. When you think about the issues that just happened with the coke facility and even the blast furnace, does that change your tune on what you guys ultimately decide for 2025? Or is it just going to come down to cost? I’m curious on your thoughts there.

Michael Garcia

Hi, David, this is Mike. Yes, I think that right now, our plan still remains to operate in 2025 in a hybrid mode. That’s been the plan for some time as well as we think it makes the right financial sense as well and obviously, financially, we’ll continue to keep a very close eye on that.
And given the incident in the past two weeks, we’ll have to understand the state of the assets and make sure we’re comfortable with the asset integrity of both blast furnace, which we pay a lot of attention to, and it features very prominently on our asset integrity and asset reliability plan, but as well as the coke ovens. But assuming nothing significantly changes in either one of those perspectives or analysis, we feel comfortable with our current plan.

David Ocampo

Got it. And it may be early days and maybe this one’s for Renault, but how should we be thinking about the cost structure when you guys are hybrid operator is at no cost plus type model or just curious what the added costs will be with the dual cost structure, DuPont, our manufacturing process.

Rajat Marwah

Hi, David. So, the best way to look at it is that we will be we will be operating an additional facility, which is the electric arc facility. And then as we indicated in the past, it probably will carry Phenom 100 to 140 people more from a from a mining perspective, which is which becomes your fixed cost, then the rest most of it becomes variable in the form of using metal in the electric arc furnace or using metal through the blast furnace. So as far as you know, the added fixed cost is concerned.
It’s a it’s that and the maintenance costs will not be much as it is as it is in your new asset. So we don’t expect it to be substantially higher as we go through it. It definitely will be higher as we are transitioning and as the as we transition and start shutting down the facilities and start reducing the fixed costs on those facilities, the costs will start coming down.

David Ocampo

And last one for me resolved. You gave some capital plans, at least as it relates to the year I was hoping you could square up the total CapEx for this year, broken down by maintenance, the plate modernization and then layering on the app on top of that.

Rajat Marwah

So then when you say this year, you’re talking of 2025 fiscal?

David Ocampo

I guess, 24 calendar.

Rajat Marwah

24 calendar. So yes, pretty much should be should be in line. So it should be a little roughly a $250–odd million zone on year that we’ll be spending from a CapEx perspective. And this is gross CapEx, not the not met and then we will be spending on our maintenance. It’s roughly $100 million, , $120 million on our maintenance CapEx.
That could be we’ll be spending so that’s your that’s your total. So there is some plate mill CapEx that will be spent in the first quarter, a little bit later on with you to complete the complete replacement projects. And that’s how the CapEx will run. That is the money spent on recovery of the coke batteries, which some of which definitely will form part of the whole analysis that we’re doing along with insurance, but that’s that that will be in addition.

David Ocampo

Got it. Thanks so much. I’ll hand the call over.

Operator

Katja Jancic, BMO Capital Markets.

Katja Jancic

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. First, just to confirm, you expect EBITDA to be higher sequentially in 4Q.

Rajat Marwah

That’s correct.

Katja Jancic

And that’s mostly going to be driven by pricing? Or is there any cost puts and takes there?

Rajat Marwah

Mostly will be pricing cost will be pretty similar and you know, from variable cost perspective, fixed cost, depending on the volume definitely will be higher, but it’s mostly coming from pricing.

Katja Jancic

And this currently assumes three weeks of lost production, right?

Rajat Marwah

Yes, roughly 1,200, 1,500 tons of production and shipment.

Katja Jancic

And maybe just on the blast furnace close to needing a full reline, is there a risk that that complicates we restart?

Michael Garcia

Hi, Katja. This is Mike. No, not really. I think the up the blast furnace disruption, it was more related to the utility service incident at coke-making, and we’ve restarted it and are slowly bringing it back to good to good metal. I don’t think that and the that’s the time since the last reline is really a factor into the incident that happened or the state that we’ll get it back to once we’re making good metal.

Katja Jancic

Thank you. I’ll hop back into the queue.

Operator

Ian Gillies, Stifel

Ian Gillies

Just to reconfirm on the working capital numbers you provided, do you suggesting that for fiscal year ’24, it will be call it a $40 million to $50 million release. And then in fiscal year ’25, we’re looking at another $100 million release?

Rajat Marwah

Yes.

Ian Gillies

And the follow on from that question is, does that contemplate and incurrence of or investing in additional working capital ahead of the EAF ramp? Because I presume you’re going to have to start buying some scrap ahead of startup and commissioning at year end?

Rajat Marwah

Yes, it does. And just for context, we will be buying scrap, but not much as we are not much by end of this year as we are ramping up, it probably will be more in the following year as we buy. And at that point in time, our iron ore and coal inventory will go down substantially as well. So yes, it does consider whatever we will buy for the ramp-up and we’d still be reducing that $100 million or $150 million in total by next year.

Ian Gillies

And Rajat, given some of I guess, the timing differences now with spending day in relation to the EAF and the use of the credit facility. Is there anything within the government loans you have right now that prevents the incurrence of additional debt or anything like that could limit your availability?

Rajat Marwah

No, there are good or buckets or baskets which are available that we can if we have to tap the credit market we can.

Ian Gillies

Okay. And then I suppose as we start looking into the remainder of this year and as we think about timing of the capital cost for the EAF, is that an update you’ll provide with your typical guidance that you provide in the early part of April or will that be provided at a later date?

Michael Garcia

We’re not sure what you mean by or by the capital costs in.

Ian Gillies

Well, sorry, just to be clear, you had suggested that you think you’ll have every all the projects secured and the capital cost secured by the end of this calendar quarter and you typically provide guidance in and around EBITDA for a quarter, call it early the following months or early April. I was just wondering if within that release you think you provide an update on the EAF and costs, et cetera?

Rajat Marwah

Yes, sure. We will. You know, as we and we typically do, we will provide a hub where we are on the on the year on the capital cost side, the our expectation is the majority of our cost should be fixed by that time, and we’ll definitely provide an update by that time.

Ian Gillies

Okay. Thanks very much. I’ll turn it back over.

Rajat Marwah

Thanks, Ian.

Operator

Ahmad Shaath, Beacon Securities.

Ahmad Shaath

Hey, guys. Just maybe a first follow-up. I guess what reference point do you suggest we use in terms of shipments for Q4 relative to the 120k to 150k that you guys mentioned just because there’s a lot of variability year to date on the shipment volume?

Rajat Marwah

Yes, so typically, we are at around 550k as an average for each quarter. So you can you can start from there.

Ahmad Shaath

Perfect. That’s very helpful. In terms of pricing, I guess you guys said that you expect directionally some stronger prices for throughout calendar 24 compared to calendar 23. As that the driver behind that is just the current futures curve or what assumptions are you driving this comment?

Rajat Marwah

it’s actually the future curves that we are that we are seeing that’s driving the pricing is the other thing that’s definitely driving our expectation for this year is the spending that’s happening on the in the infrastructure and other areas of the consumption as such for the demand as such has been stable so weak, we don’t expect big changes as such other than the sentimental changes that happened.
And also we are factoring in the cost the cost element, which has kept the loans at a higher number and kept the average and through the cycle pricing at a higher number as well. So some of those factors are considered. But yes, the futures are also indicating where the pricing is going.

Ahmad Shaath

Okay. That’s very helpful. Thanks Rajat. And unless one, I’m not sure if you guys touched on it, but are you guys planning maybe as we get closer to the commissioning of BAF, just update us on the potential savings and OpEx structure. It’s been a while since I think the last update we had is from the data from the roadshow was going public. Just wondering if there is a chance we get an update around those numbers this year?

Michael Garcia

Yes, Ahmad, this is Mike. We’ll continue to do that as we update information and get closer to the commissioning of the commencement of commissioning on the EAFs at the end of this year, both on where what are what our end state will be, as well as more information around what the what the short hybrid period we’ll look like from that perspective, not much less.

Ahmad Shaath

That’s really helpful. Thanks for answering my questions.

Operator

Lucas Pipes, B. Riley Securities

Lucas Pipes

Thank you very much, operator. Good morning, everyone, and apologies if I missed this, but I wondered if you could maybe provide some color in terms of dollars and cents in regards to the coke incident and wondered what was the OpEx impact this year might be? And then also from a CapEx side, what will be any additional costs from the incident in the longer term, any kind of long-term cost to consider? Thank you very much.

Michael Garcia

Sure. I’ll start, Lucas. So we’ve completed the preparation of the repair plan using it out both outside engineering and up internal resources. So we expect the total repair costs to be in the $20 million to $30 million range and should be complete sometime in the April time period in terms of costs. Beyond that, our aim is to do a complete recovery back to full production of the coke batteries.
Thankfully, during the incident of none of the three batteries suffered any thermal integrity degradation, we were able to protect the thermal integrity of all of all three batteries. So once the repair is executed, our goal is to get back to pre incident of coke production levels.

Lucas Pipes

Got it. At any longer term costs that might be associated with this?

Rajat Marwah

I think it’s a it’s too early to say, but we the way the way we have looked at it right now and the end the world that we are doing in batteries as such are okay, the walls are okay. So we don’t expect much to much degradation there, which is which is the key from long-term cost perspective.
As far as the corridor is concerned, the piping that. So that’s the cost that we have assessed, which is $20 million to $30 million. So at high level, I don’t think that there will be additional costs, but we’ll know more as we restart the furnace to full production and just some added color during that period, we’ll probably be running at 30% to 40% of our production and using external coal during this quarter. So and come next quarter, we should we should get down to our full production levels.

Lucas Pipes

Very helpful. Thank you. And I’ll turn to a kind of high-level topic on M&A. I saw a very active process in the U.S. with US Steel. And kind of I’m wondering how you look at the M&A landscape at this at this time is there something that you think strategically, could it could possibly benefit Algoma? Or how do you expect the landscape to kind of evolve maybe more within Canada would appreciate your.

Michael Garcia

Yes, thanks. Hi, Lucas. While I’m sure will evolve, it’s our policy not to not to speculate or comment on how we may be thinking around specific M&A opportunities and I appreciate the question.

Lucas Pipes

Anything that would come strategically, maybe that’s uniquely beneficial to Algoma? Or is it really just focus on the EAF on from your side?

Michael Garcia

Yes, I mean I’ve got to believe Arch are short term strategic path is clear. We believe that EAF brings a tremendous strategic value two to Algoma. We’re laser focused on and executing that were we’re on time on budget and we very much look forward to commissioning at the end of this year, beginning commissioning.

Lucas Pipes

All right. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you very much.

Michael Garcia

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I’d like to hand the floor back over to Michael Moraca, for any closing comments.

Mike Moraca

Well, thank you very much again for your participation in our third quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call and your continued interest in Algoma Steel. We look forward to updating you our results and progress when we report our fiscal fourth quarter results. It’s scheduled for June. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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